A bad year for Bobby

I strongly agree with Mark Bradley’s critique of Bobby, along with his premise — “Even great players have off-years. We’ve just seen a great manager have his.” (Unfortunately, our best player has also had an off-year.)

For nearly two decades we’ve assumed Cox will maximize the resources on hand. He hasn’t done it this season. He has overworked his bullpen and done strange things with his two nominal closers and relied on Greg Norton to get the key pinch-hit two dozen times too many. He has also failed to be even slightly creative with his lineup.

There’s more, and it’s a recommended read.

–CB

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12 Comments on A bad year for Bobby

  1. Viva Rufino Linares // September 8, 2009 at 4:26 pm //

    Maybe Bobby isn’t Bobby anymore either. Maybe he’s losing his ability to pull the best performances out of players. His battle w/ Yesco may be a fine example of that. Just like we need to look to a time without Chipper, we need to start to look to a time without Bobby.

  2. PepeFreeUs // September 8, 2009 at 5:50 pm //

    This has been true for quite a while, really. Cox can’t plan a walk up and down a staircase. If his strength, (which is running an even keel, professional team) diminishes, he’s a liability.

    It has and he is.

  3. Yeah I read that yesterday and agree with Bradley. You cant fault Bobby for 2007 and 2008; he had nothing to work with really. This year he had plenty of talent – the stats about the starter’s ERA’s, league batting average and runs scored (both stunners to me) would say that we should be leading our division, but because of bad management the Braves have slowly slid out of wildcard contention.
    I used to hate it when people called for Bobby’s head but I think the time has come to seriously look for a replacement.

  4. clete boyer fan // September 9, 2009 at 11:22 am //

    Regrettably, I have to agree. I felt that Bobby did not have a good year managing in ’08. This year, with much better starting pitching and several player upgrades during the season, I think Bobby did his job only marginally better than last year. Cox has set a high standard over the years, but it’s been hard for me to defend a lot of his moves (and non-moves) this season.

  5. Scotty Money // September 9, 2009 at 12:05 pm //

    Mr. Cox may stay or leave at his discretion.
    He built it, ran it, and won a lot of pennants and one big one for nearly two decades. Yes, he’s had a tough year – but next year looks better, not worse.

    Let’s not run our HOF manager out of town …let’s chill out and let him decide and then throw a parade for him. I don’t care if he wants to work for 5 more years and they finish out of it every year. He deserves to put as much money in the bank as possible and set his family up for the future.

    Just enjoy the little things, like watching him get thrown out of games or listening to his pre and post game interviews. It won’t last long, so enjoy it while you still can and quit acting like you know better than Mr. Cox.

    thank you!

  6. rankin' rob // September 9, 2009 at 12:33 pm //

    Enjoy the little things–like KJ and Frenchy stinking up the batting order for three months straight, starting the year with an injured, overmatched rookie in centerfield, mismanagement and burning out of the bullpen, trotting up our annual stiff of the year repeatedly in clutch situations(Lockhart, Crapward, Norton). Cox has been an Atlanta icon, he’s a major part of the reason the team is no longer a laughingstock. Throw him a parade, salute him as he goes into the Hall of Fame. But the reality is that the game has passed him by. You don’t care if he manages five more years and we finish out of it every year? I do. It’s time for some new blood.

  7. Scotty Money // September 9, 2009 at 2:02 pm //

    well, we suffered through longer stretches of sub-par baseball in the past.

    i think the new blood is needed in the coaching staff and in the power bat department.

    i don’t WANT to watch them finish out of it for 5 more years …but if Cox stays I bet that won’t happen …i would bet they would go to and win a World Series so he could retire in the locker-room afterwards. Of course, I like story-book endings and not running people out of town like the Braves do.

    I just don’t want to see a Murphy, Justice, Gant, Glavine, Smoltz like handling of the exit strategy for a guy who built the greatest portion of history in the history of the franchise (to date).

    I’m just saying – let HIM decide when it’s time for the parade. He’s earned it.

    …and yes, enjoy the hilarity of his loyalty to guys like (deep breath) Norton.
    It’s still baseball and it’s entertaining to watch it. Plus, he’s just treating people as he would like to be treated… giving them the benefit of the doubt and allowing them a chance to do well if they’ve earned one in his view. I think we need to do the same for Mr. Cox and show that ‘the golden rule’ works.

    He could have left for more money too somewhere in there – but he stayed with Atlanta – so let’s stay with him until he’s ready to tip his cap.

    you people are animals!

  8. Scotty Money // September 9, 2009 at 2:12 pm //

    and then when he does retire… Mr. Cox for Commissioner of Baseball!

  9. PepeFreeUs // September 9, 2009 at 6:21 pm //

    Kool Aid spill on aisle 5.

  10. Scotty Money // September 9, 2009 at 7:11 pm //

    maybe ATL fans are just ungrateful & spoiled?
    can’t the guy go out on top and get a gold watch or something?
    jeeezuz.

  11. You can’t get rid of Bobby. He has earned the right to choose his path through 20+ years of managing a mostly great team and helping build that team as GM.

    That said, he’s stuck with several hitters that aren’t nearly as good as options on the bench (Francoeur, Johnson), fallen in love with bench players that can’t produce (Norton, Woodward), and drastically overused relievers (O’Flaherty, Medlen, Boyer, Ohman).

    It’s sad.

  12. Well, if he is able to obtain the pieces the team needs this offseason and get into the playoffs next year (and maybe even win something), I’ll happily wash the egg off my face. I don’t think anyone on here is trying to negate what Bobby has achieved, and he will get his induction into the Hall of Fame. He has truly been great for the city of Atlanta, and for reviving our franchise.
    But there comes a time when you have to know when to step down, or in Bobbby’s case, hand the reigns over to TP and move up into the front office – at least he won’t get ejected from there.
    I don’t think anyone on here is ungrateful and spoiled; under Bobby we’ve come to expect good, solid baseball from our team (testament to his good work) and we just haven’t gotten that in the past 3 seasons.
    I don’t see anything wrong with expecting a winning team. Unless you live in Pittsburgh. ;-)

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